Do any of you authors have the ability to unshare a comment?

"Gamecat235" (Gamecat235)
08/15/2014 at 13:55 • Filed to: Kinja Help, Kinja, neat, features, new features

I can "dismiss" but not unshare. And I can't even select to unshare comments on other blogs where I am only an author (as opposed to moderator status which I have here).

ETA: For Kinja Help Tag / Documentation

It seems very odd, as a test, I "dismissed" a comment through this option, which was shared from within Oppo, and it dismissed the comment in the original thread as well as removing the share.

So what will happen if I "dismiss" the share from the front page? And why is the dismiss option tied to unsharing a comment?

ETA2: It's there for some shared comments, but not others.

ETA3: It seems that only moderators can unshare some comments (in my testing), and others, it seems no one (except maybe other than the sharer?) can unshare . Such as the one pictured at the top of the page, I cannot unshare it from oppo).

DISCUSSION (63)

Brian Silvestro > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 13:57

......oh reallly

That means we can share comments without restriction!

THERE'S NO RULES

*rips shirt off*

Gamecat235 > Brian Silvestro
08/15/2014 at 13:57

No. It means you can't remove them. But I can. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mattbob > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 13:57

nope. I have never seen that option.

Gamecat235 > Mattbob
08/15/2014 at 13:58

But... can you unshare that comment? I'm curious because this is VERY new behavior.

Brian Silvestro > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 13:58

*Puts shirt back on*

oh...

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:00

I think only the sharers can unshared.

Victorious Secret > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:00

I used to be able to unshare comments directly from Oppo, but now thats gone.

This is asking for abuse if you can't unshare them anymore.

505Turbeaux > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:02

only if you shared it first I think. I just get the dismiss

Gamecat235 > Victorious Secret
08/15/2014 at 14:02

Oh.. I can. I just wanted to test to see if others could. This is AWESOME.

Power... Power!!! POWER!!!

Mattbob > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:03

nope, just the usual edit, follow, share selections.

Victorious Secret > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:03

Well, maybe its glitchy, but this isn't new behavior , at least for me. SO I HAVE HAD UNTOLD POWER FOR AGES MUAHAHAHHA.

Chris Clarke > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:05

I can only Dismiss a reply to a post I authored and Undo a repost to another Kinja blog.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/ma…

mcseanerson > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:08

Why do you want to unshare the comment I shared? Do I o-fend?

Gamecat235 > mcseanerson
08/15/2014 at 14:09

Was a convenient example. No intent meant.

mcseanerson > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 14:10

Ah, I just tried to see and I don't even have the edit option for it.

Agrajag > Brian Silvestro
08/15/2014 at 14:22

Haha. I almost just spit my lunch on my keyboard.

Jonathan Harper > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 15:02

There is no unsharing.

Gamecat235 > Jonathan Harper
08/15/2014 at 15:08

Even still? No unsharing option for the comments shared to Oppo? O_o

(it has been sporadically returning for me)

Jonathan Harper > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 15:10

None.

Gamecat235 > Jonathan Harper
08/15/2014 at 15:11

Weird. And also neat. I think this means that perhaps we have limited the unshares to moderators. Which is AWESOME (IMO)

Edward Callow > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 16:01

Hey there, I'm the 'owner' of Hackerspace (or supreme commander). Kinja really complicated and I'm not quite sure myself about the differences between functions. Do you know the difference between dismissing and unsharing? It's like the upcoming return of approved comments: do we verify by recommending or following on behalf of the blog? According to Gawker a Media users trusted by the blog (or it's admins) can trust other users but they can't follow on the blogs behalf...

Gamecat235 > Edward Callow
08/15/2014 at 16:08

Hi Ed! There are a lot of active changes occurring and I wanted to see if any of you had seen any of these things. The dismiss function actually works as a "dismiss" if you are a moderator where the original post came from. Unsharing still unshares, when it's available, which does not appear to be all of the time, *and* looks to be tied to other permissions.

There are certain posts that I cannot unshare from Oppo currently. These are posts which came from front pages.

The approved comments can be dealt with for all comments going forward by following, or to just recommend if you only want the one comment out of the grey/pending area. Just like last time (so far).

Your understanding of the front page behavior is correct as best as I can tell.

(I added you as an author here, just in case you ever want it, if you don't and it just clutters your menu, let me know and I'll remove it).

a_blackpanther > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 16:56

I can still unshare posts from Oppo (haven't found a shared comment), and I can still unshare both posts and comments from the ODeck - but I have to click the comment - after it takes me to the post page with the comment the unshare option appears in the dropdown.

Gamecat235 > a_blackpanther
08/15/2014 at 16:59

That option (on the original comment) wasn't there about 30 minutes ago. The behavior seems to keep changing. I'm waiting to see how this plays out over the next few hours before I report anything.

Thank you for letting me know. =)

Gamecat235 > a_blackpanther
08/15/2014 at 17:02

And in the case of the original test case: http://jalopnik.com/sorry-to-be-of…

I can't unshare it from Oppo period. And it's still there.

story645 > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 18:53

I feel like this might be a good thing/I'm pretty sure it's what the GT mods were asking for 'cause we have a couple of posters who are unshare happy and it's spawned multiple call out posts and the like.

And is the person who shared the unsharable comments a mod? I feel like something like that should block someone else from unsharing.

Gamecat235 > story645
08/15/2014 at 18:56

It's really hard to say. The behavior has been changing as the day has gone on. Some can be removed. Others cannot. I've been busy at work the last couple of hours, and I'm assuming it has changed again.

nothip > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 18:59

"it's not a bug, it's a feature"

anomby2 > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 19:02

Am I the only person struggling with editing pending comments? It's driving me batty.

T_Beermonster > story645
08/15/2014 at 19:04

If it is of any informative value I could (but haven't) Undo repost to Groupthink for this post.

Gamecat235 > anomby2
08/15/2014 at 19:06

I haven't had issues yet. But... give it time.

anomby2 > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 19:08

Have you commented anywhere that you're pending or are you one of those magical folk who have privs everywhere? I'm trying to decide if I should be developing a persecution complex about this or not.

story645 > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 19:08

non-sequitur but since I apparently now have author privs here, would ya'll like to get in on my crazy cross thread?

Gamecat235 > anomby2
08/15/2014 at 19:15

I don't quite have privs everywhere, I need to go over to Kotaku or TAY and comment there and try to edit my comment. I'll report back.

Gamecat235 > anomby2
08/15/2014 at 19:20

I can edit my pending posts.

http://kotaku.com/testing-for-co…

Sorry...

anomby2 > Gamecat235
08/15/2014 at 19:23

Conspiracy it is. Sigh. I knew Ernie seemed like an anti Semite.

Thanks for investigating!

Gamecat235 > anomby2
08/15/2014 at 19:25

Just choked with laughter. That's possibly the most absurd idea I've ever heard. =)

Also, just added ETA #4 (test, test, test)

a_blackpanther > Gamecat235
08/16/2014 at 03:53

Odd. I'm not seeing the unshare option for that one either.

Edward Callow > Gamecat235
08/16/2014 at 13:05

Hey Gamecat, Nice to know someone knows what they're talking about! I wonder if approved comments will be replaced by a more long term system... I can't remember why it was removed now but I can't remember it ever being a part of the Tiger update.

Thanks for the authorship, I did 'apply' when oppo was new but it never happened. I can see you're already an author of hs :)

I'm also still thinking of ways for the blogs (especially sub blogs of the GM sites) to interact and work with each other.

Ernie @ Kinja > anomby2
08/18/2014 at 17:09

Whoa! Settle down there!

Ernie @ Kinja > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 17:11

Not going to lie, I'm really confused here. Could be jet lag. Is there any way you can summarize this in a few sentences tops?

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:12

Let me retest it, and I will summarize in a little bit. =) Thanks!

(sorry, busy day at work, but I didn't see anyone else address it, my explanations may have been a bit piecemeal)

And PROVING my point, this a different topic than what I was thinking. THIS post is confusing as HELL. Sorry. Will retest and see.

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:18

OK. The behavior over the weekend was that for a couple of hours, no one could unshare materials other than the original posters if they came from an environment where you did not have admin rights (for instance, I could unshare from a comment on Oppo which was shared to oppo, but I couldn't unshare a comment from Jalopnik which was shared to Oppo).

At some point this behavior stopped occurring and with the exception of the only remaining vestige of this change, everything seems to have returned to normal. The remaining vestige is the dismiss option in the dropdown menu, which is quite odd.

(I think that makes MUCH more sense).

Ernie @ Kinja > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 17:23

I still don't completely understand, but I do understand more than I did before :) Thank you for clarifying. I'll look into the dismiss thing.

anomby2 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:31

I just call 'em like I see 'em Herr Ernie.

Ernie @ Kinja > anomby2
08/18/2014 at 17:36

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:45

I'm confused as well.

Basically, unsharing stopped working for most people for a period of time on Saturday except for some very specific, permission based exceptions. At the same time the "dismiss" option was also introduced to the dropdown off of the triangle for shared comments when you have admin permissions on the blog that the comment was shared to.

At some point after this was noticed, the issue appears to have been resolved, with the exception of the "dismiss" option still being present. (which, as I discovered, actually functions as a dismiss, not an unshare).

anomby2 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:45

Ernie @ Kinja > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 17:46

Gotcha. Thanks for dealing with my braindeath.

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:48

Clearly it is spreading. I had to try multiple times to put together a coherent reply. =)

I think that this whole toomuchworkus bacteria is causing undue stress and leading to incoherence and general babble.

Ernie @ Kinja > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 17:52

Amen! The bacteria is known to spread rapidly on Mondays..

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:53

I... had two clear approaches to this.

1. treat this as an actual, legitimate sentiment and adopt a nuke from orbit approach...

2. assume that this was a joke and move forward with the assumption that it was just in poor taste.

If I erred in caution, I still maintain the right to nuke from orbit (as, I am imagining, you do too, but with a much more effective weapon, which I also imagine you don't use lightly or without very good reason).

Don't think I didn't debate the dismiss option very heavily.

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 17:54

This may be why my brother comes over on Monday nights to catch up on life and on beers which need to be shared.

Ernie @ Kinja > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 18:06

Anti-semitism (and any racist sentiment for that matter) is not to be taken lightly, especially on the internet where everything is final and there are no take backs. I would like to know 1. if sugarhill is joking, and if not, 2. why that conclusion was reached.

Ernie @ Kinja > anomby2
08/18/2014 at 18:06

So, was that anti-semite remark legit, or are you just joking around? If it's legit, I'd like to know how and why you came to that conclusion!

anomby2 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 18:10

Oh I'm really sorry, it literally didn't even occur to me that you would think I was serious.

I was having trouble with kinja. I'm Jewish. Blaming things that seem to only happen to me on anti semitism is a pretty standard joke (albeit not a very original one). I see gamecat took it as I intended, but if you have any doubt at all that others will, please just dismiss the entire thread. The bug was fixed and I have no desire to make you uncomfortable.

You're great. I wasn't kidding when I told Denton to give you a raise. Sorry about this.

anomby2 > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 18:12

I was completely joking and wouldn't even really have labeled it poor taste just...a tired joke (Holocaust survivor granddaughter, it's a thing). Ernie's salt of the earth. I'm not a known entity here though so I get how it could maybe read that way - I forgot where I was. Please dismiss it if you think anyone could possibly take it seriously (by your initial response I assumed you took it in the way I intended so I forgot about it until Ernie just commented).

Gamecat235 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 18:13

I saw this and thought about the approaches I could take.

Very few of them ended well, and in truth, I took the weakest way out (which is embarrassing to admit to be honest). I also was hoping for an admission of joking, but it never seemed to come. I like sugarhill's interactions on other blogs, so I was willing to provide for the benefit of the doubt (no one is perfect, but racism has NO place in civil conversation or civil society).

I found it to be so unlikely that this could be a sincerely held belief because:

1. EVERYBODY I know on here loves you.

2. see number 1.

3. I have never seen a single racially motivated comment from you in any communications I have ever been privy to. Not one. Ever.

So, on my part, I would like to apologize to you for not addressing it and calling it out for what it was, because I failed there. And I am sorry.

(I do generally believe that ignoring racism is condoning it... damn it.)

Gamecat235 > anomby2
08/18/2014 at 18:16

As a descendant of Jewish heritage who does not identify with Judaism, but does absolutely adhere to humanist principles, and who has relatives (aunts, uncles, great uncles, etc) who were lost in the Holocaust I understand the family usage of the term, but also do not want to have the stigma of allowing anything which resembles racism to be acceptable. Regardless of direction.

I had sincerely hoped it was a joke, based on many interactions with you. Thank you for the explanation.

anomby2 > Gamecat235
08/18/2014 at 18:24

Your initial response was exactly what I was going for — the idea of Ernie being anti semitic is, indeed, completely absurd. Since we have interacted in the past I figured you'd take the ribbing how it was intended — I sincerely appreciate that you gave me of the benefit of the doubt on it!

Ernie @ Kinja > anomby2
08/18/2014 at 20:06

No need to dismiss, and I figured it was in jest (also echo what Gamecat said about everyone thinking you're a fantastic person) butttt the explanation was necessary. I didn't want a rando coming in here and seeing that one comment and running with it, and then I get fired or something.

Anyway, carry on!

anomby2 > Ernie @ Kinja
08/18/2014 at 20:19

Will do. Next time I decide to publicly accuse you of something horrible in your work place, I'll make sure to tack on a "j/k" to the end, just to clear things up. I wouldn't worry about it though, they wouldn't dare fire you - the forums would revolt.

ERNIE IS A GREAT GUY AND I'M SURE HE TOTALLY DOESN'T CARE WHAT RELIGION YOU ASCRIBE TO.

Gamecat235 > story645
08/19/2014 at 12:15

I do believe that we most definitely would like to be included. Thanks for asking!